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to this crisis. we're talking about the fiscal cliff. >> it hasn't got ensigned into law. there's no success yet there. >> boehner should move it tomorrow. he should just do that. >> jonathan? >> listen, the president campaigned on a three to one spending reduction and we're not see anything spending here. democrats controlled two-thirds of the chips. >> joy ann, why is this all about taxes? >> one reelection and the -- it doesn't do that much spending. >> it's been all about taxes. >> all about raising taxes. >> there's this obsession with raising taxes. >> it was to go after school lunches and elderly care, health care for poor kids and increased spending. >> no, no, no, they want entitlement reform, joy ann. why this obsession with cutting old people's medicare? >> it's not an obsession about cutting benefits to the elderly, joy ann. it's about reforming medicare over time so at some point in the future we don't tell an 80-year-old you know what? you're not going get the medicare cha you thought you would have. this is about not hurting the elderly. >> the republican solution is to hand 80-ye
. >>> pass new gun laws or set up more armed protections at our schools and public places? that seems to be one of the big debates in america this evening. let's bring back our panel, and we welcome nan hayworth. let's start with the nra they want armed guards in the schools. what's your take? >> well, larry, this is -- we are still reeling from a hideous event. so there are going to be a lot of ideas that from every segment of our society that people are going to have. i think your point is very well taken about the value of faith. whatever someone's faith may be, and family-based faith, as well. because if we can as a culture be mindful that there are -- there are people and there are interests and there's a society outside our own heads. i think the video games play into that because people have become young people and these are young men who do these. they're deeply disturbed, but there is a cultural milieu that contributes, i think, to that sense that somehow they feel they can go out and be destructive, by whatever means. and as we know -- >> katie, a cultural milieu, an interes
. under the laws, those withholding rates are supposed to go up because, as you know, all thoughts tax cuts that were passed over a decade ago were supposed to expire. and the irs is basically on the sideline waiting to see what happens on the hill between them and the president to see if, in fact, there's a reason to tell the current employers, hold on, there will be a freeze on those rates. if, in fact, they have to go to the new guidance, consumers will start to feel very early the hit to their paychecks of having gone over the fiscal cliff, even if there's auto deal that retroactively drags us back over the top of the cliff. >> it's an interesting point. greg, thank you so much. such a mess. >>> it was better news at the box office lately. hollywood is on track to post an all-time box office record this year. film lovers have flocked the theaters to see christmas day performances of les miserables and "unchanged." >>> stick around. still to come on the show, the summer olympics and u.s. election made to 2012 a bumper user for advertisers. will that continue in 2013? we'll ask the c
existing laws. they're not enforced. but did you see this gallup, a new record for people that oppose handgun bans. 74%. it's never been that high. 24% -- more people apparently would ban piers morgan from ever appearing on tv again than would ban handguns. that's much higher consensus on that. which i think -- which would be good for everybody, i think. >> look, there are a lot of cross currents here, joe. you're right. i mean i think there's very strong sentiment that something big has to change. >> background checks, you know what? you definitely got to -- you should do that. >> gun show loopholes >> there's some simple things. but actually questioning the second amendment, that's counterproductive. i'm telling you. for people that do that. it's counter productive. anyway -- >> very special thanks to eamon and to jared. happy holidays if we don't see you before the new year. but i think given this conversation we might be talking cliff even on monday. >> thanks. >> coming up, businesses bracing for the fiscal cliff. we'll ask chairman and ceo thomas fanning if the deal is possible
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